Quality of work depends on project. However EU has a great work ethic. Fixed working hours where you are expected to work diligently and post that you will not receive any calls or asks to work late.  
 Some German managers plan stuff really well and there is seldom scope for panic and blaming on engineers.

Software Engineer

People of grapevine, whoever has moved from an Indian startup like swiggy, Zomato, Paytm, any unicorn b2c  etc to an international one like the ones of zalando, delivery hero,  Spotify in the eu or...

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People of grapevine, whoever has moved from an Indian startup like swiggy, Zomato, Paytm, any unicorn b2c  etc to an international one like the ones of zalando, delivery hero,  Spotify in the eu or a good company in the US/uk in product. Is the work and learning better or am I downplaying the good work being done in our country ?

Moving to us/uk/eu

Product Owner

Moving to us/uk/eu- Grapevine

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

I work remotely for an european company and i have to say this indian companies cannot match culture and WLB in european tech companies. This is attested by my friends who work at companies like spinny,flipkart,amazon…etc. lets debate!

Experience at working with a EU company

Welcome to Moving Abroad's Private Community

Due to financial difficulties, I couldn’t afford college in past so had to dropout. But after working in different startups for 4 years I am financially independent now.

Currently, I am working as a product manager in one of the startup in India. But, all of the startups I worked for were > A series in terms of funding.

Can I get a working visa in European countries or Australia?

What should my next move in upcoming years? Working in some foreign based countries as a remote employee? Or should I get a working visa first in some country and then apply for remote jobs?

The reason to move out from India is less pay and work life balance. I am planning to move back to India after few years of working in abroad as It would help me to save some money to venture my own startup.

Which countries provide working visas for dropouts?

Growth Manager

With over 10+ years of experience in Product management within the insurance and Fintech sector, I’ve realized that product management is still not understood/defined well as a role. I’m open to all sort of queries.

Ex-Policybazaar Product Head #AMA

Is there any specific companies which offers non tech role with visa assistnace in Europe..
7 years of experiance in Project management.

Opportunities abroad

Program Manager

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Came across this post on X recently, the point sounds valid in my opinion but wanted to know from the community cuz I recently took a decision between a unicorn b2c start-u which is super popular vs a b2b SaaS startup which is known among the tech community.

Post link: https://twitter.com/amuldotexe/status/1738243872231428484?t=V2-6pMSYCvl7L-w_f8IggQ&s=19

A big name in tech Vs 0-1 high growth place

Product Manager

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Good to see 13 lacs+ Jee aspirants even amidst news of tech recession and what not.

If we assume 15M+ strong tech Workforce of India then 1M is knocking the door 🚪 every year.

💯% scoring in boards exam to exam like JEE, few alfa still able to get out of trap of snap and insta.

What do u think 💭 guys?

OG Marketing still working 🤯

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I work in a small green tech startup company based out of  Norway with full remote from bangalore  they make ev battery . I am working as chief data officer , but the  company has less data but good wlb and very good environment . Nobody is stoping me to do anything . I got an offer from grab Singapore in Singapore with salary 30000 sgd per month and stocks extra . Should I leave India for Singapore . I have 20 years experience and growing child middle school and current ctc 1.25 inr with bonus . Should I go or not

Offer from grab Singapore as head of analytics

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So my sibling is about to graduate with a degree in Computer Science from a T2 college in a few months and wants to now do MS in the US because of three reasons: 

1. Low levels of violence against women(Sexual Assault) [IMPORTANT!!]
2. Want to do innovative work in the US instead of working on copycat products in India
3. Ambition of living in the US long term because of free-er culture

But my parents have flat out refused to fund the education or even help her with a loan due to regressive mentality (nahi jaana baahar, 2-3 saal kaam karo aur shaadi karo chup chaap)

She has accepted a job offer for now and will make 14L/year. What are her options? Should she drop the idea of MS abroad?

What to do if your parents refused to fund your education(MS/MBA) abroad?

Two options -  
  
 1. As I read, she will making 14L, save aggressively and self fund herself to MS. Places like UoCincinati or Texas univs aren’t that costly. She might able to score a diversity scholarship/waiver as well. 
  
 2. Start looking for Germany based unis. They have minimal uni fee, she just need to maintain the living expenses.  
  
 My 2 cents - Working for 2-3 years before MS will bring more clarity and increase the RoI of investments.

Software Developer

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Also, how to pick your first job? What to look for?

Best places(culture+pay) to join as a fresher in a nontech role?

Intern

Why India does not have technology-based product companies and why early companies like TCS, Infosys etc did not focus on the product.

India lacks technology companies.

Hola 👋 fellow grapeviners, so in short, I currently work in an early stage startup and I really love the work. Recently, I have a dilemma that should I stay in the startup ecosystem or to go to big tech giants. Obviously 🙄, In mncs the work won’t be rewarded as much as the startups, but i will get good money and wlb. Can anyone show some insight to me?

which path? Startup or MNC?

Offer : E4 175k pounds
Current: L4 56 Lakhs
YoE: 1 year 7 months

Here's what I have considered:

- Living in London is going to be costly, on an avg I'll be saving 1.2x of India.
- Meta London created a bad reputation for itself when last year it laid off people from India just 2 days after joining
- it's not worth it going from L4 to E4, I probably should switch only when getting a higher level or a big big pay bump (this is probably not a big pay bump considering the cost of living)
- I am not very good at making friends, and I have quite some friends here now... I don't just want to leave everything and be alone in a new city so far away from home.

- the only pro point I see is that..  it is London.

Do you think I should reconsider my decision?

I have decided to reject Meta London offer

Dude, take risk. I know staying in Google looks like safety net but You might not be able to do adventures stuff later in life. Moving to a new country, new food, new culture. You WILL meet new people. Those things can’t be bought.

I have awork ex of 5 years and work with one of the best consumer tech startups in India making 32LPA and stocks. Lately, I feel that no matter how much you make here, the quality of life isn't all that great in Bangalore with the roads, pollution and what not.

At this stage, I can't lose 2 years of my time to a masters degree and start afresh in the USA.   At the same time, I'm not sure how to find  job opportunities in US, EU or even SE Asia.

Can anyone guide me on this?

ML opportunities abroad?

Also, how was your overall experience of living abroad?

Anybody here lived/studied abroad but then came back to India? If yes, what made you come back?

Investment Associate

Hi all , I have recently transitioned into a PM role after having worked  in Strategy role for 4 years. I am planning to move to Australia / Europe due to personal reasons. Any advice on how can we scout and get jobs outside India for a PM role ? 

Thanks

Searching for PM role outside India

So i am noticing majority of you guys who describe yourself as founder , I am sure you are working day and night buliding some amazing products and services for consumers out there in different domain , be it fintech , be it SaaS , be it eCommerce or any other category or even some minute one with huge scope, what you think about Indian startup ecosystem , is it going to be big , is next decade really belongs to India , the way prominent companies are setting up their offices in india , the manufacturing industries and specially the Indian tech engineers who are cost effective as compared to USA , what you think, where this journey is going 

I think USA and European countries are already reached at their saturation point , it's just a nominal stretch beyond that , but India is still growing and growing and it's economy is developing and Paisa developing economies mein banta hai.

What you founders think about Indian startup scene?

Which companies in India offer opportunities to move to locations abroad?

Best companies to move abroad

This will help the people to get the list of good companies with compensations, WLB.

Based on your response I will Inmail the recruiters.

I will start
- Microsoft (I am already working)
- Atlassian
- Google

PS: @BiriyaniEnthu Please don't comment with a question.

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Atlassian is horrible. With the new changes in management, the company is going down to dogs. Please research instead of making these random claims

I love to read about tech and how startups evolved. Have spent a lot of time figuring out how the good product companies in the US got built: Google, FB, Instagram, Snap, Pinterest etc. etc. 

One thing stands out: A lot of these started out as just projects, and not a real startup. 
Instagram was just an idea to make photo filtering better. Reddit was just a project around making a cooler internet.

They set off as projects, and got some traction before becoming funded startups. Because they had devs in the founding team, who were always doing projects as side hustles. 

This wasn't the time when SDE salaries were so pumped up, they didn't want to just become good devs, they probably wanted to solve real problems. 

My takeaway: 

Maybe Engineers shouldn’t be too incentivised to just code. They should be incentivised to think business. 
Thats how FB, Google, Insta etc happened as companies.

In India, high pay endears engineers to stick to coding, do less business thinking.
That’s why we don’t see too many coders posting their side projects on X, Reddit, GV within India. Maybe there just aren’t enough. 

Have just been thinking about this. 

Open to thoughts from the community - maybe my view is limited. Would love to hear.

Why Silicon Valley became Silicon Valley, and why that will likely not happen in India

This is an actually very true. 
  
 I’ve seen developers who are very good in the stuff they do but lack the thinking from a customer / business POV. They take the PRD and convert it into code but never ever question whether this is the experience they want to provide to the end user.  
  
 Everyone needs to understand code is a way to achieve business and to achieve business , you would need to think from a business prospective. 
  
 That’s why , I always tell my juniors whenever they code , always take a step back and put yourself in the customer shoes and think what you are doing is what you want as a customer or not

Corporate Strategist

What has startups done that has added value to a normal Indian's life? Other than a few.

Obviously, apart from fellow tech bros.

Startup Bros are net negative to society.

Normal Indians shop from startups founded by startup bros/sis: 
  
 Flipkart 
 Myntra 
 Nykaa 
 Meesho 
  
 Normal Indians pays for those shopping using PG founded by startup bros/sis: 
  
 Razorpay 
 Paytm 
 PhonePe 
 Cashfree 
  
 Normal Indians get those products delivered to their doorstep, again by startups founded by startup bros/sis: 
  
 Delhivery 
 ShipRocket 
  
 Normal Indians have lakhs of new job opportunities available to them, all thanks to startup bros/sis who are silently building for the greater good of our society.

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