Wow, 
  
 If your senior devs aren't providing you meaningful review comments for refactoring but doing those themselves, then they aren't really senior devs. Senior devs should be using code reviews to mentor junior devs. 
  
 Do you know why they do it? Is it for some refactoring brownie points? Do you make it difficult for them to provide review comments in time?

No and no. Moreover Im always up for getting reviews, he made few comments on first iteration and I made changes accordingly and refactored as well. Out of nowhere a commit was pushed later on the same day.

Software Engineer

That's very odd. Especially that your manager isn't taking it seriously. I would start preparing for the worst and be prepared for interviewing. 
  
 This could be a way to position you as someone who requires a PIP.

Software Developer

Why aren't they just pointing out improvements in your PRs? Bring it up to your engineering manager or project manager if they don't hear the first time

I bought it up, will do it again. Really wanna quit this job now it's too much.

Frontend Engineer

Don't they know how to use Code Review feature available in every git service provider?

Software Test - QA

I work as a SDE1, and have been working on a new project, and I get it the deadlines and all but this senior have been pushing commits on my PR. I get it I'm a noob but they could leave comments or...

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

I work as a SDE1, and have been working on a new project, and I get it the deadlines and all but this senior have been pushing commits on my PR. I get it I'm a noob but they could leave comments or maybe get on call.

Even yesterday this dude pushed refactor commits, it's soo irritating as I have to go through his changes and tbh refactoring is fine but he doesn't have to change everything whatever he finds better.


Talked to my manager, he mentioned its fine but not everytime.

Ps: yeah ik it helps me to leaen but it's damn irritating.

Seniors being pain in ass

Seniors being pain in ass- Grapevine

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

I'm working as an APM at a startup for about a year now. I work with another guy who happens to be my senior, PM and both of us report to the director.

Of late, my senior, i.e., the PM has been undermining my work when the two of us are working together, subtly taunting me that what I've done is pretty easy and non impactful business wise. He also disregards the decisions made by me, modifies the PRDs discovered and written by me and mails them as his own.

Eventually, he ends up adding me to the walkthrough calls because I had discovered the features but then concludes everything such that he had owned everything end to end.

Recently, both of us were given a documentation to be done by our manager, i.e., the director. I had completed almost 70% of that document, but in our call with the director he presented it saying that he had written that document and I had made a few changes to it.

This undermines my work and visibility of my capabilities. I don't know how to tackle this situation, my manager is usually busy and leaves it upto this PM to allocate work, which he unfairly uses.

How do I talk to my manager about this. I'm fairly new to corporate, just graduated last year and don't know how to handle all this.

But this thing has been bothering me lately, really looking forward to any advise my fellow grapeviners may have.

Senior taking credit for my work

You definitely need to talk to the director and share your concerns . Possibly separate out projects and independently handle them.

Product Manager

Welcome to Data Scientists's Private Community

My job is to develop applications and dashboards for my clients. My client manager is an enthusiast. He asks for my base code which usually i don't share or pbix files for the dashboards which again I don't share. When I say i don't share it means we share frontend and not the backend.

Ideally, if I share the whole logic, he may find a different developer and modify my code, which might be legal but not a usual practice. Anyways my concern is that he tries to find faults with it which again is not something that he should be doing.

Do you think this is right? And anything I can do to make him stop this?

The client asks for code.

Data engineer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

I have a senior in my team who considers herself a manager, when she's not. She's just my senior.  She will ping me 100 times in a day and delegate me more tasks before even before the first one is complete. She knows nothing about how work is done as she keeps delegating it to others. If I don't respond she keeps calling and she calls me in the middle of the night too. I have a really cool manager who doesn't ping me daily, will only ask for the deliverables on the deadline. I would have ignored my senior as she's not really the manager but she is the manager's pet. I have seen her delegate tasks to her seniors as well. It's been only a month since I have joined. Any advice on how do I deal with this? It's getting really frustrating.

Micro Manager

Associate Consultant

Have this co worker, who kind of leads my current project. He keeps digging into PRs and adding comments even when others from the team approved it.

How do I politely shut down this activity? or do I have to not take offense and just work on the comments

The PR comments mostly seem like, preference in coding style.

Am I overreacting? How to handle PR comments

Welcome to News Discussion's Private Community

Hi. I got placed in a very good company through my college placement as an intern. Due to large team size they didn't converted me as a full time employee. But then I got call from another team and go through the interview process like technical rounds mangerial round and hr round. I got offer in that team. Initially they gave me recorded KTs and assigned me few courses regarding the product and I completed that. But the problem arises when I am implementing what I learned from KTs and courses. Not all time, but I reach out to people for some clarity nd then I solve the issue. Within a month i was assigned a task which requires assistance from another team which has only two people from india to assist here. So that task took more time than it usually takes for an experienced member. My Manager on one on one speak like reach out to people when you need help, but when I do he speak like why are you wasting whole team time. And I'm the only one who is at the entry level post and others are seniors and they didn't showed any intrest in training or assisting me. So I'm bit worried about asking our for help. But I do resolve customer side bugs not just trouble shooting also the code changes. As the day went of, one day he said like from day one it's a disappointment from you and I really didn't understand what he saw in me in my first day and in the follow up meeting he says like ur performance is not up to the mark. I'm so depressed by those words and waiting for them to terminate me. When I applied for a week leave for my family function he called me in the morning and said you are terminated. And the reason he told me was performance issues. And I really didn't understand that is this a genuine reason? Thoughts on this.....

PS: I got terminated a week back..

Still can't understand?

I’ve been insufferable at work since 2-3 months now. Total time at my company- 6mo 21 days. Profile - Product Management 
My engineering team seems to be taking no ownership and always have their brahmastra ready that it didn’t come from product’s side. QA again is so great that I have to sit and thoroughly test each release end to end. 
My manager- he’s quite interested in taking my career fwd as a project manager. (I am not) He’s a total asshole and is quite concerned with start dates and end dates of tasks ( mind you, I am not the one actually writing the code but somehow the dates are my responsibility). He totally micromanages and somehow keeps blaming me for each small thing.
Examples:
- My engg team isn’t taking ownership: “you aren’t keeping them motivated enough”
- This isn’t a last minute change : “Do you attend standups? You aren’t communicating well”
- The QA tested and approved it, hence we released it. : “But did you test it? “
- Here are the release notes. : “This looks too jazzy, did you copy from GPT”
- Here are the release notes. : “This looks too basic, did you not copy from GPT”

I could go on forever. 

Gust: I am quite unhappy and is causing me unnecessary stress everyday. Also I don’t feel there’s a solution possible

Should I rage quit?

I have recently joined a startup as an APM (My first PM role) and my manager is teaching me the bits and pieces of Product Management. The issue is, while he's helpful and experienced in this field, he sometimes talks to me in a very condescending way which kinda hurts me. I agree that I have a lot to learn and getting a job as an APM is a big thing, especially when you've been in a specialist role for all your life but I still don't get the point of patronizing your juniors. I'm trying to get better at writing documentation and specs but I get very disheartened after every spec review meeting I schedule with my manager. 

Any tips for handling this?

How to deal with a condescending manager?

Associate Product Manager

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

I am working as SDE 1 in a good Indian startup. It's getting toxic day by day. Late night workings like 3AM and working on weekends is normalised like anything. Since I am new to IT ( no sort of politics never) and have almost 2.5 Years of experience, I am facing issues in getting credits. Last appraisal cycle in January, I was nominated for promotion but wasn't given to me, reason: you have not worked with architect and he was making decisions. In that case, architect should have been distributed tasks to us. 

one SDE3 is leading one of the projects ( not a big one ) and manager/architect is not much interested and never join any standup or retro, I have contributed immensely to that. Now since it is completely driven by sde 3 , he takes updates from us and show his work infront of seniors and director + announces like his work and seldom we get thank you in threads. Like if you did one function or wrote complete flow, for both thank you. Because of all these reasons, my work is not getting recognised. There is no one in team to help in this. 

Whenever a manager or Architect show cases some features or release, it's pretty evident that his team has done it but when a sde 3 does it, it is not the same. It conveys the message all or 90% work is done by him. 

I would like to take some suggestions from my seniors and fellow mates here. 

Hierarchy - sde 1-2-3-4-EM
I can't leave or switch right now due to some critical persona reasons.

Need help !! Toxicity at workplace

Good Indian startup is an oxymoron statement

Analyst

I joined Synkrama Technologies Private Limited  with enthusiasm, inspired by a positive and supportive environment. Initially, the atmosphere seemed promising, and I was motivated to contribute to the team. However, as time went on, I faced numerous challenges that profoundly impacted my professional and personal well-being.

Early in my tenure, I was appointed as a Team Lead on several projects. This role, though a significant opportunity, came with immense pressure from our CEO, KJ. The expectation was to meet deadlines at any cost, which led to continuous mental stress. Under his directives, I inadvertently became a source of pressure for my colleagues , AN , and AB and other major colleagues . This created a strained and uncomfortable working environment for all of us as i used to put pressure on them on the influence of Karan Jain 

The situation worsened as I found myself working through weekends and even during leaves, resulting in severe mental exhaustion. Despite these efforts, new developers were hired, and I was sidelined. This period was particularly tough, leading to depression and sleepless nights. After enduring this for several months, I decided to resign from my position.

Unexpectedly, KJ contacted me, urging me to withdraw my resignation. He assured me that the previous issues would be resolved and praised my contributions. Reluctantly, I decided to stay, hoping for a positive change.

However, the company's environment continued to pose challenges. We were subjected to screen monitoring via Team Logger, where management frequently questioned my idle time. Despite my high productivity and efficiency, I was often scrutinized for taking breaks or assisting colleagues, which is essential for maintaining a collaborative workspace.

Most recently, a significant and distressing event occurred, further affirming my decision to share my experience publicly. it’s crucial to address and bring awareness to the toxic practices that can affect employees’ mental health and overall well-being.

I hope my story encourages organizations to foster genuinely supportive environments and prioritize the mental health of their employees.

source: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rutvik-borad-12409b19b_theabrcurseabrofabrcoprorate-activity-7199762667471839233-3wyR

The Curse of Corporate

I saw your post on LinkedIn yesterday and shared it with my friends and colleagues. In my previous organization, my manager faced a similar issue but didn't have the courage to speak out. I'm glad you addressed it, as it will surely encourage others to share their stories and raise awareness about such practices. Thank you for your bravery.

Data Scientist

Education

So thing is  In last 1 week my manager/project lead has been threating that you will have to work on weekend if you dont complete your task by friday and put the the task to testing.

And this boils my blood soo damnn much . But as a person who is on lowest level i cant do/say shit. I just disagree with him and dont argue.
What would you have done .[ practical advice only]

And thing is i do all my dev work on time even earlier almost everytime and he just goes around and threatens everyone with this. Soo annoying thay dumbfk needs to get rekt .

Work on weekend?!! Advice needed

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

Hello all in my project whatever I'm doing I'm getting huge criticism from my lead everytime , everyone except him is very good with me. To be Frank , I am understanding and doing a lot's of stuff to impress him too. I have only 1.5 yrs of  experience he is having 15+ yrs of experience but the way I'm pushing myself I'm happy , sometimes working 12-14 hrs a day. But whatever even small project related doubts also he is not bearing with me. Daily I'm going deep down mentally but cann't express this with anyone to my family nor with my colleagues. 

Can anyone suggest what can I do , is this common in IT sector. This is first time I'm experiencing this I had interned at one of faang there i didn't faced like this everyone encourage s my idealogy and will corrects me if I'm wrong?
Can you please give some motivation.

Demotivating by my lead

I have been working as an APM in a B2B startup for 12 months now; 5 months internship and 7 months as FTE after graduation.

My work revolves around gathering requirements for features by talking to experts and conducting research, conducting impact analysis; getting initial themes and liaising with Designers to get the final UX, leading the implementation phase with Developers and QA and then getting the release and feature documentation.

Other tasks involve liaising with people from Marketing, Client Partner and Sales to acquaint them with the new features, conducting internal demos, and also looking after client requests/ bugs and getting them fixed.

One issue that I feel however is that my PRDs need revision by my senior. I don't think they are bad, given I include all the things that I feel (based on my experience with the Development pod) come in necessary usually. It might be the case as well that my senior likes to put the requirements documented in a way he likes.

Want suggestions, is this the correct amount and type of work, or something else that I must be picking up too at this stage of career, and how the career shapes ahead in general, in this domain?

Work as an APM

I’ve been observing millenial graduate engineers for 2 years now.
They think they know everything. Due to this they do not feel respecting the senior in team. I am not focusing about the senior by age but experience.
In the latest AI age, they hace access to solution for every doubt. This makes them arrogant and they don’t want to get mentored as well. 
Does anyone else have the same feelings?

Freshers dont respect seniors

I have recently joined a startup as an APM (My first PM role) and my manager is teaching me the bits and pieces of Product Management. The issue is, while he's helpful and experienced in this field, he sometimes talks to me in a very condescending way which kinda hurts me. I agree that I have a lot to learn and getting a job as an APM is a big thing, especially when you've been in a specialist role for all your life but I still don't get the point of patronizing your juniors. I'm trying to get better at writing documentation and specs but I get very disheartened after every spec review meeting I schedule with him.

Any tips for handling this? And what are some ways to get better at writing documentation and specs?

How do you guys deal with toxic people in tech, especially when they are your seniors or you work with them everyday?
We are a small team and the senior I have is an extremely shit person. We decide something while design discussions, and product discussion but he changes his mind and asks to completely revamp the solution after it's implemented. Extremely close-minded to new or different ideas or different ways of doing things. Also frequently insults people on the call.

I know one solution is to leave the company but that can't always be the case and when the team is small, sometimes these people become unavoidable. So looking for ideas on how other people deal with toxic peers/seniors in their workplace.

Dealing with shit/toxic people in tech

I have 1 YOE and I often miss my deadlines which causes spillover. The tasks assigned to me get completed by me, and I face very little difficulty in it.

Also, when someone asks me about a different part of the codebase, I am unable to answer confidently. I tried reading documentation, but couldn't figure out much. But still I do read the documentation sometimes.

I identified distractions and removed them, mostly my phone. But recently I noticed that I still miss deadlines, but the reason for that is I take a long time to figure out the issue/feature that I am going to develop.

So far I have tried
- Removing distractions, by uninstalling SM apps 
- White boarding the issue beforehand
- Communicating better and early.

Things I am going to try
- Use debugger instead of logs(I know, should have done before)
- Document before implementing (Didn't know, that this was a standard practice before)

How to stop being a slow developer

I have an engineer on my team who thinks his way is the only correct way. He unnecessarily optimizes his code(For example, he uses methods with multiple params instead of passing the whole object), and adds an extra layer of validation even though the current validation works perfectly fine. He doesn't like if people comment on his PRs and complains that he is blocked by the comments. And the worst thing is, he isn't willing to change his code even if you justify your comments or explain the problems in detail. 

I'm fed up with this, I gave up multiple times out of frustration. And the technical owner of my team also doesn't want to argue with him. Being a senior engineer in my team, I'm not sure how to deal with this situation.

Seniors being pain in ass

Discover More

Product Managers on

by Jordon Lee

Series A Startup

Senior taking credit for my work

Data Scientists on

by Aaron Nadeen

Accenture

The client asks for code.

Office Gossip on

by Kendall Dean

EY

Micro Manager

Software Engineers on

by Kendall Nadeen

Inshorts

Am I overreacting? How to handle PR comments

News Discussion on

by Jordon Carmden

Unemployed

Still can't understand?

Product Managers on

by Jordon Nadeen

Stealth

Should I rage quit?

Office Gossip on

by Kendall Lee

Stealth

How to deal with a condescending manager?

Indian Startups on

by Matilda Taye

Meesho

Need help !! Toxicity at workplace

Office Gossip on

by Aaron Dean

Private company

The Curse of Corporate

Software Engineers on

by Anise Lee

PWC

Work on weekend?!! Advice needed

IT Company Discussion on

by Blair Carmden

Publicis Sapient

Demotivating by my lead

Product Managers on

by Jordon Hyrum

Series A Startup

Work as an APM

Office Gossip on

by Kendall Hyrum

Walmart

Freshers dont respect seniors

Product Managers on

by Anise Carmden

Stealth

How to deal with a condescending manager?

Software Engineers on

by Jordon Carmden

Startup

Dealing with shit/toxic people in tech

Software Engineers on

by Karilyn Olive

Stealth

How to stop being a slow developer

IT Company Discussion on

by Kendall Dean

Stealth

How to deal with a team mate with an inflated Ego?