Engineering Manager

Product Manager

Least... On an average any SDE makes more than a PM

Consultant

Trick question. He already knows it along with your kyc details

Founder

Haha. Just so others know, this is based on a meme where the guy types “How to kill” in google search and then FBI raises sunglasses to look at him… then the guy continues “How to kill NPC in game”, and FBI goes back to relaxing 😂

Software Engineer

So many PMs(or would be PMs).. so little jobs..

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Why every other post is about PM

Why every other post is about PM- Grapevine

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Coming from a SPM.
Lifecycle of most PMs:
1. Become a PM
2. Keep posting same trite content on LinkedIn
3. Then register yourself as a coach on some PM community.
Nothing against them but frankly none of them ever post a content or article on what features they have launched or worked upon.
Forget any launch,they won't even share the domain learning.Most of the time it will be the copy pasted content from Marty Cagan and Shreyas Doshi

Too much bakar from PMs

Hi Folks, coming across on linkedin lot of posts by PM Influencers and it is literally overwhelming. How to separate good content from the annoying ones. Can an aspiring PM fix to few consistent quality resources and do quietly PM work.


Are quiet PMs able to learn more on product management.


Day by Day Linkedin posts on PM by PM Influencers are shitholes.

Quiet PMs

Almost every other post about PM function is as eye opening as this. What do you guys think?

PM future seems bleak?

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Do anyone else think PMs aren't very good at the things they are supposed to do.
It is evident from failing products across industry.
Any views??

Are PMs even revelant?

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What exactly do PMs do anyway?

I see all the job post related to PM has around 300-500+ applicants. Is the competition this tough or log bakaiti kar rahe hai?

It’s clear that companies won’t need engineers 10 years from now. 

They’ll just need people who know what to make. Who to sell to. How to sell to. At what price. 

This will be the great commoditization of Software development

Take it or leave it.

[Hot Take] AI will make SWEs redundant, PMs and Marketers will become the most important job

This is an L take for someone who works at Google
It is supremely obvious that SWEs are about to enter the golden era of Software Engineering. We are easily foreseeing 2x-2.5x improvement in developer productivity rate. You should go touch some grass or else you will end up becoming PM guru who shills substandard-courses to poor kids.

Product Marketing Manager

As a PM I would say it is to delivery high quality product in less time. 🕰️

What is the biggest problem you face in your daily job? Please mention your role as well.

Note - I am a product manager too

4 out of 5 product managers will act all high and mighty of themselves, bragging their way as if they run everything going on in the company, flaunting their business degrees and being utterly disrespectful towards their team( dev design qa name it), 

Recently started going to office so the attitude I am seeing is very transparent and more visible (more with the higher experience folks)

It makes me wanna leave this hyper inflated role, thinking of I will end up like them scares me, and you have to do is speak out jargons in meetings day in day out and have a English accent of Shashi Tharoor.

Recently my manager told that this is a role where you have to very representable or very visible and act in floor as if you are the busiest person on earth and I seriously some PMs in company doing that, they walk so fast in floor as if they will fall off or would be better to have 4 legs.

I am done with this product management shit

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Can PMs here please describe their day to day work? What kind of things do you work on? What scale of products/users do you deal with? Likes and dislikes about being a PM?

What does a PM even do everyday?

Product Owner

Today a poll was conducted in my WhatsApp group for people who are planning for ms by the fall 2025 at US that wha roles are they targeting post their masters and majority of them are voted for product management so I want to ask is the product management is becoming new norm or it's just fomo among engineering grads like it was for software development 2-4 yrs back. Also what's the future of PMs in terms of salary, growth with advancement in AI tools

The PM trend

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

Recently my company posted an opening for a PM job (5+yoe) on LinkedIn and i got final year engineering students from Tier 1/2/3 institutions in my DM asking for a referral for the job. 
I was like wtf at least first get 2-3 year of  any corporate experience and then think about moving to PM role. Why are freshers preparing for PM job out of a sudden

Why is there a sudden rise in craze for PM job

[Thread] What is the one thing you could add to PM, so that it doesn’t become the HR of jokes?

This is not a question for the cocky new grad in the overvalued startup, but for the few seasoned PMs that still reply out here.

Where do PMs go after they peak?

By peaking I mean arriving at a GPM or Staff PM position at the top 10-15 companies (you can do your own ranking here).

Nobody has the true statistics but I will use the assumption that 75% (debatable) of those who peak, will get laid off within 2 years from their ‘peak role’. The remaining will be able to progress into DoP and VP in the same top company or another in the top 15.

Where do they go then?

I am pretty positive, from experience, that they don’t go any up.

Do they go down the ladder of new startups for titles and ending up in the worst ones after being laid off 4-5 times? Do they quit all together?

Do they open a farm?

Do they start their own startup?

Comments and thoughts folks!

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