From Food to Financial wellness to Travel OTA, tell me about that transition. I’ve been stuck in Insurance.

Product Owner

What I meant was that a product person in ultimately there to offer better numbers for the business, which usually happens by delivering the best experience for the users. And for this to happen, one should be able to look at the bigger picture as well, not just the feature or product that you as a PM is working on.  
  
 Even if a business is majorly just finance/insurance/food, there will be elements of everything within it. For swiggy, there's finance and insurance involved, etc

Product Manager

Main question is did HR asked the reason for early switch

Software Engineer

I saw this transition recently by anuj rathi, although I saw some threads on GV about hik moving to Cleartrip, but as business head is something I didn't know Based on this transition is it good to...

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I saw this transition recently by anuj rathi, although I saw some threads on GV about hik moving to Cleartrip, but as business head is something I didn't know
Based on this transition is it good to say that -- Product ke log khatre me hai kya( product folks are in danger). Better to have some relevant hard skills rather than just shouting on LinkedIn about entering into product mgmt

CPO to Business Head

Associate Product Manager

CPO to Business Head- Grapevine

The job market has dried up for senior product roles. Do you think the situation will improve soon? What's your overall outlook of product management as a career beyond 10 years? Do you see yourself doing this for another decade?

Asking mostly from a supply and demand point of view. Also, has seen that the role is becoming more and more vague and replaceable.

Context: Leading a 6 membered product team in a series B funded company. Managing the ceo/cpo opinion differences, moving to wfo from remote, high work pressure and too much reporting. I have been working with series A, series B companies throughout my career.

To people with 10+ years in product management, what's your outlook for the future?

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i am product manager with 6yoe and with some good brands. but lately i am wondering if this is peak and future demand of software product manager with no hands on coding experience will keep declining 

i sometime feels that either i have to learn coding (which i am learning) or else find a hard core industry like EV, renewable energy, batteries, semiconductor etc 

whats your thoughts? super curious to learn what you all feel about digital product manager?

also one question where i appreciate your feedback - I have not done MBA yet but contemplating it now to make switch industry to non software. I know this is very non traditional but would love to hear feedback

is software product manager role over?u

Recently gave an interview at Jupiter Money for Senior PM role: 

1. There is an exploratory call to judge the fit - experience, skill and culture wise. 

2. I was told there will be 3-4 rounds of interview and after that they will decide based on cumulative feedback of all the rounds 

3. My first 2 rounds were scheduled - product sense and product strategy rounds. 

4. First, The round got scheduled thrice. 

5. I finally did my product sense round and to me it was one of the the best case study interview I gave. To the proof I also have complete documentation of the live case study I solved and also showed that to few senior product leaders in the industry. They also validated that that it was really well solved. 

6. Next day I was told my round didn’t go as well and they are even cancelling the other rounds. There was no precise feedback which is anyway not expected. I communicated that according to the process I was told that all the rounds would happen and then a decision would be taken. 

7. They ridiculed that. To me it was the case of strong personal bias where interviewer preferred other candidates because of his alumni or for other reasons or strongly did not like me. To avoid personal biases usually organisations do parallel rounds at senior level and take a decision based on cumulative feedback. 

In hindsight, it’s good it didn’t happen. Better to join a merit based organisation then biased and politics led.

Interview Experience at Jupiter Money

Don’t even think about it. The product team is in a really bad place, Rathi was fired, the people he hired after moving in to make his mark have moved on including dunzo pari. Good riddance I would say. Moreover, it’s follow the leadership train in Jupiter so don’t even think about going there at least for a couple of years.

I am a PM with 10+ years experience. I am now interviewing with Meesho for Heading their lending vertical. This is not a pure PM role but it involves setting up a vertical grounds up. Not sure if this is a right role for my career right now. Any thoughts would be appreciated 😌

Senior folks (10+ years). Have you switched from PMing to some other role?

Big news. Anyone got tea on what's up at Jupiter?

Anuj Rathi takes over Cleartrip as CEO

Anuj Rathi living an intern life 🫠

Growth Manager

This is not a question for the cocky new grad in the overvalued startup, but for the few seasoned PMs that still reply out here.

Where do PMs go after they peak?

By peaking I mean arriving at a GPM or Staff PM position at the top 10-15 companies (you can do your own ranking here).

Nobody has the true statistics but I will use the assumption that 75% (debatable) of those who peak, will get laid off within 2 years from their ‘peak role’. The remaining will be able to progress into DoP and VP in the same top company or another in the top 15.

Where do they go then?

I am pretty positive, from experience, that they don’t go any up.

Do they go down the ladder of new startups for titles and ending up in the worst ones after being laid off 4-5 times? Do they quit all together?

Do they open a farm?

Do they start their own startup?

Comments and thoughts folks!

Where Do PMs Go After They Peak?

Software Developer

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Indian unicorn companies these days are doing forced PIPs to remove folks who are a high salary as per last year or have conflicts and all. Employee benefits being reduced left right and center. Environment has become toxic. This is being done for IPO. Watch out guys.

PhonePe and Swiggy made up forced PIPs

Software Architect

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Woah. What a move. Anuj Rathi becomes Cleartrip CEO 🙌🏻

Product Marketing Manager

Please put an example of why you think so, it will help everyone know the difference of great v good product work.

Reply if your company does great Product work

Office Assistant

Lately I am observing trend that product roles are going down, not many company believe in hiring product roles. At least small/mid startup wants CTPO roles and they want someone to play dual roles, primarily tech led products roles. Pure product roles is becoming lesser. Even few bigger MNCs have fewer products roles to offer. Is it just me? Or grapevine thinks same as well?

Product roles are going down

Lawyer

Biggest query:
Does this career move make sense? Or should the aim be towards a Manager position after spending 6+ years in Product Management?

Switch advice: SPM w/ 6+ YOE --> Management Consultant

Management Consultant

Hey GV folks, long-time lurker, first-time poster here. I'm a product leader at Zomato, managing a team of 8 PMs. Today, I want to share a practice that's become the cornerstone of our product philosophy - and it all started with me being "punished" by my first manager.

At the cost of self praising, this is some really good advice so I hope you’re able to extract the maximum value out of this.

Five years ago, I was a cocky new PM, fresh out of a fancy consulting gig. I thought I knew everything about our users based on data and surveys.

My wake-up call came when I royally screwed up a feature release. Instead of firing me, my manager did something unconventional - she made me spend a week as a delivery partner.

I was pissed. Riding around Bangalore in the March heat, navigating traffic, dealing with hangry customers - how was this supposed to make me a better PM? But on day three, while waiting for an order outside Truffles (fellow Bangaloreans, you know the wait I'm talking about), I struck up a conversation with a few seasoned delivery partners.

What I learned in those 30 minutes blew my mind. They shared hacks they'd developed, pain points I'd never considered, and insights about customer behavior that no amount of data could have revealed. I realized I'd been building features in a vacuum, completely disconnected from the real world our app operated in.

That week changed everything. I rewrote our entire product roadmap based on what I learned. The results? Our delivery partner satisfaction scores shot up, and our order completion rates improved significantly.

Since then, I've made it a point to spend one day every month doing deliveries. It keeps me grounded, provides constant insights, and reminds me who we're really building for.

When I started managing other PMs, I knew I had to institutionalize this practice. Now, it's mandatory for everyone on my team to do a delivery day once a month. No exceptions.

At first, there was resistance. "We have data for this," they'd argue. "I can't waste a whole day delivering food!" But after their first experience, they got it. Now, our team meetings are buzzing with insights from the field.

Here's why I believe every product manager should regularly step into their users' shoes:

1. Data doesn't tell the whole story: Numbers can show you what's happening, but not why. Real interactions reveal the context behind the data.
2. Empathy drives innovation: When you experience user pain points firsthand, you're more motivated to solve them creatively.
3. It challenges assumptions: Nothing humbles you faster than realizing your "brilliant" feature is actually a pain to use in the real world.
4. It builds credibility: When you can say "I've done this myself," your team and stakeholders listen differently.
5. It's a reminder of impact: In the daily grind of KPIs and metrics, it's easy to forget that we're affecting real people's lives. This practice keeps that front and center.

Some practical tips if you want to try this:
- Don't just observe. Actually do the job.
- Engage in conversations. Users (and front-line workers) are usually eager to share their experiences if you show genuine interest.
- Look for workarounds and hacks. These are gold mines for product insights.
- Pay attention to the environment and context in which your product is used.
- Reflect on the experience immediately after. What surprised you? What frustrated you?

To my fellow PMs out there: when was the last time you truly stepped into your users' shoes? If it's been a while, I challenge you to give it a try. You might just find your next big product breakthrough while waiting to pick up someone’s 1 am order from Empire :)

P.S. Took a photo while waiting for my order, would probably have been fired long back had it not been for this evening!

Why I make my PM team deliver food orders - no exceptions

Why does your post sounds like some made up bullshit Gyaan I see on LinkedIn everyday.

Founder

Hi, I have been offered a PM role at Paytm. My overall experience is 6 yrs with >2 yrs in Product. The CTC they are offering is 40 LPA  which is a 30% hike. In current company culture and wlb is good. If anyone can suggest, Is it lower/higher than market standards and how's the culture and wlb in Paytm Product team?

PM role at Paytm

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Hi
I have done my BTech (Tier 1) and MBA (Tier 2). I have 4 years of digital marketing and 2 years of product management experience. Current I work as a Product Owner in a service based company.  My fixed compensation is 19 LPA. 

How should I go about now in my career to scale up the learning as well as the CTC?

How to grow in product management

Business Analyst

I've been the job market for a while and have observed a remarkable shift in the number of opportunities in B2B compared to B2C PM roles. 

Most B2C companies in India like Swiggy, FK etc seem to have matured to the point where there's no further scope of optimising their online conversion/retention - the core KPIs of B2C PMs. On top of that, a lot of these companies are eyeing for IPOs soon which makes hiring and building new stuff even a lesser priority for them. 

Is my observation biased? Or is it actually the case that B2B roles are more in the market

Is B2C product management dying in India?

So again Unacademy has asked people to leave, and asked them to resign.

Leadership is so clueless about what they are doing, they fired 3-4 people whom they had hired a month ago. Imagine the situation 😂

And I don't see this stopping at Unacademy anytime soon

They are aching left, right and centre. Still some people are making advt videos with Sachin.

And the nalla has time to tweet and enjoy vacation, I pity the investors who funded them.

100th Layoff round at Unacademy

Have been seeing this as of recent, is it change in direction - new leadership to drive that

Swiggy has announced a significant addition to its senior leadership team with the appointment of Ashwath Swaminathan as Chief Growth & Marketing Officer.

Ashwath Swaminathan joins Swiggy as Chief Growth & Marketing Officer

Why is this common now? Big hire after mass layoffs

Frontend Engineer

Anyone here or has worked in CleverTap .
Know if few people who gave me bad reviews, like the full product team with CPO left in one year during pandemic and lot of senior engineering folks left as well.

Recently saw the CEO left too .
Any reviews

CleverTap reviews ?

I worked hard for last 2-3 years and finally got into product mgmt from business strategy role. Now I keep listening that product mgmt is a dying career, it has no future, it will be gobbled up by AI. 
I am really exhausted of this catchup game. I sometimes feel that things would have been better if I had joined some FMCG company in a supply chain - ops role. Those roles are much more stable than these high stress startup roles.

What should be my plan to lead a more peaceful yet decently high paying career? In need of some great advice folks...pls share valuable comments 🙂

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