oh btw if anyone is hiring product designers do let me know lol, this has really pushed me off the edge

Product designer as in? You make sketches and stuff?

UX/UI Designer

digital product designer, more similar to UI/UX

Product Designer

Private Equity

Dry promotion.  
  
 This has been for a while in the industry. But it has somehow increased since last 2 years.  
  
 It gives you a sense of achievement but unless its not beneficial at monetary level, its doesn’t make any sense.

Software Engineer

Hey, so a little context here, I work as a product designer and just completed 6 months at this company and a product owner recently quit.   They promote me to product owner and product designer an...

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Hey, so a little context here, I work as a product designer and just completed 6 months at this company and a product owner recently quit. 

They promote me to product owner and product designer and release the performance review late which shows that  I only Meet All Expectations and hence am not eligible for a pay raise.

And my manager says to me that this is sort of an intermediate step into being promoted and this is to give you more responsibilities so you can grow and get promoted.

All this seems like complete fucking bullshit to me and idk how to navigate through this, any experienced professionals if you wanna share some advice?

Getting promoted w/o a salary hike

Getting promoted w/o a salary hike- Grapevine

So since past few days, I'm getting feeling that they are going to sack my manager and are going to promote me to his level. They have already started sharing sheets with me whose access I didn't had earlier. It's a team of 6-7 designers, and I'm senior among them. Now, if they promote me toh manage this team, how should I ask for hike? What important things should I highlight so that I can make a good case for myself? Should I let them give me additional responsibilities and wait till june-July for appraisal? 
 Appreciate all suggestions

How should I ask for salary hike if they are replacing my manager with me

Welcome to Business Roles's Private Community

I find myself in a rather perplexing situation at work and could use some impartial advice. Currently, I am employed at an Indian e-commerce firm where I have put in a lot of hard work. However, during the recent annual cycle, I was not promoted, and my salary hike was disappointingly meager (CCTC 14.5LPA). Naturally, I expressed my concerns to my manager, who advised me to wait until the mid-cycle as my promotion case would be reconsidered then.

In the meantime, I actively sought out new opportunities, and I have received an enticing offer from a Consumer Packaged Goods (CPG) firm with a significantly higher compensation of 24LPA. This is substantially more than what I'm currently earning, but less than my expected CTC that is around 28-30LPA.

The confusion lies in the fact that my current firm has now initiated the promotion feedback process, and it's possible that I may get the promotion soon. I'm now torn between two choices: do I stay at my current job, potentially get the promotion, and then reconsider switching, or do I seize the opportunity at the CPG firm with the better financial package?

I understand that both options have their pros and cons, but I'm finding it challenging to make a decision on my own. Any advice or insights you could provide would be immensely helpful in guiding me through this tough decision-making process.


YoE: 4.1 Years
Domain: Analytics 

Thank you in advance for your understanding and support.

NEED ADVICE ON JOB OFFER DILEMMA!!

Assistant Manager

I am working in Consulting post MBA - it is a mix of PM, Product Strategy, Implementation projects.

I can work on industries and multiple offerings so learning is widespread but a slow upward curve.
Pay is good considering my previous experience and peers. Work life balance is also decent.

But, they are not giving promotions in my team because of some stupid leadership decisions. I will have to wait for next 6 months.

So I am in dilemma if I should stay or switch.
If you were in a similar situation, how did you make your decision?

No promotions - should I switch?

Consultant

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Indian job market looks at YOE more than skills. I am working as SDE 1 pulling in SDE 2 tasks for a while. Declined promotion as have only 16 months of experience and not getting shortlisted for SDE 2 in other companies as well. 
What can someone do in this type of scenario.

YOE > Skills?

Software Developer

I am 2019 CSE graduate. I used to work in some startup in Bengaluru but during covid when I was home I switched jobs and choose a permanent work from home. The pay was double what I was getting in Bengaluru and I thought Its better to be near parents and work. When I left my job first job I was a Senior SDE already but I switched to this job for a SE role thinking will get promoted later. Since then its been 2 years and I have not got promoted. Manager cancels all the One-One meetings just 10 mins before the call. I asked him last time and he said he is going to recommend me in the next cycle (perhaps next april). But now he will have a new manager under whom we will work tldr; manager is changing. I feel very stuck and regret my past decisions. I am happy with the CTC but its just that I am turning around 5 years of experience but still an SDE.

I have worked countelss nights and weekends to deliver on time and cancelled plans many times. Is it a good time to look elsewhere?

How to get promoted in the same company?

I am a software engineer with 1 year of professional experience and about 2 years of experience counting all my freelance gigs as well as internships.

I’ve identified that I’m good at picking up new technologies easily. I’m also very detail oriented and tend to find the moat optimal solutions even though my current position only expects me to follow the PRD provided by my tech lead.

I find that most of the times, I have had to raise my concerns to my seniors for a change of an approach with me being correct almost all the time by the end of the discussion.

Now I feel confused, that maybe I was being underestimated and therefore underpaid by my employer.

Context: I switched to this company about 6 months ago with a package of 12 LPA and got a mere 5% hike to 12.65 LPA during last month with a promotion from being a technical associate -> software development engineer.
During my meeting with the manager, i was told that my performance was ‘very good’ but since its been only 6 months, they are giving me a promotion to match my skills but not give me a good hike.

Any thoughts?

CTC check

Looking for genuine and non diplomatic answers since it will be anonymous. It is upto you to reveal the name of the company you resigned from.

Lets discuss!!! I will go first -

I quit my last organisation (a famous UPI company) in 2020 because, they still are in old technology. No cloud computing, no kubernates, no terraform. Their entire baremetal infra are in 2 DCs (Mumbai and Bangalore). Leadership ideas are outdated. I was very much bored and looking for a change.

Why did you resign?

Amount of effort i put and the salary i got was not proportional. 14 hrs to get 30k salary as a fresher. I had understood that I deserve better - thus i moved to get better pay and better wlb (which I got in swiggy)

Founder

DevOps Engineer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

So I was a top performer in my team, and the most tenured after my boss. My boss still wouldn't praise me enough or give visibility of my work to his seniors. Guess he was always insecure that I would shine brighter. 

So I decided to take my boss out by putting him under significant stress by making his role irrelevant. By simply DOING HIS WORK

I started doing his work and and making decisions he is supposed to be making. Specially during a week when he was gone - I pretty much acted as a pseudo boss for the entire team. 

The final nail in the coffin was I somehow setup a meeting with my boss' boss and told him exactly how poorly managed our team was and how insecure my boss would behave. 

6 months later my boss looked outside for a role and exited the company

And this performance review cycle I still did not get the promotion. They're saying they'll bring another manager above us but they haven't promoted me. 

FML

They did not give me the promotion despite me making my boss irrelevant

Analyst

I was expecting promotion this year.
Someone two years junior from me gor promoted, ps different team same manager.
My manager told me I am very good technically but need to grow on other aspects, did not told me what are the other aspects. He told me they will promote me once the project I am working on ends and my performance is good.
Disheartened!!
Worked my ass off last year, took initiatives even though no support from the team.

No promotion!!!

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

Hi folks, I’m grossly underpaid and my work output + impact warrants a promotion and a fat hike imo. But being told that this is not possible mid year. What can I do to make it happen? Haven’t had a proper conversation regarding this with manager yet.

How to ask for a promotion/hike mid year?

Product Manager

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

I took on additional responsibilities with the promise of a promotion 'soon'. A year later, I'm doing the job without the title or compensation. Has anyone successfully navigated this limbo? How did you approach the conversation without burning bridges?

Hey guys! I have been working as a Business Analyst for Conduent for the past 2.5 years. I'm still at the same CTC they hired me on and everytime I brought up the topic to increase my compensation etc, my manager just tells me we are looking into it and it is because of budget issues. 
The excuses don't stop. 
its not like other people who joined with me aren't promoted. they did get a 20-30% raise. 

Can someone suggest me on how do I deal with this situation? 

Should I look for another job? or should I continue to fight here for the compensation I do deserve ?

Why am I starting to feel like an underpaid and unappreciated employee

Business Analyst

I recently switched my job, and my new employers were asking if I could refer someone and I reached out to my junior (fresher, 1 YOE now) at my previous employer and got his resume and he was asking about how much compensation to expect.

The number he was expecting was 3x of my salary at my previous employer, naively i assumed that his compensation would <= as mine (I was more experienced and my performance was 📈) and told him : "with current market conditions it's difficult for that, you cannot expect 3x" and he tells me it's not 3x but 2x and I was like 😮. The compensation that he was Getting as a fresher was more than what I was getting paid despite having more experience. I had to switch job to get the same compensation that they are offering to freshers.


All this time my ex-manager and lead know about this and never fought on my behalf, I feel betrayed. Now my mood is all f***ed.

Not fair

Backend Engineer

What to do when you are not satisfied with your current salary because you feel the quality and quantity of work you do is not worth it and your supervisor is playing around and not in favour of giving any financial growth even after good performance and you are not getting any opportunity outside having around 9yrs of experience in HR Operations. You feel very low and disappointed working like this. He is taking advantage of everything, not letting you apply for internal job openings also. What to do in this case?

Not happy with the salary

Human Resources

Hey, 

I am a SWE with 2 yrs exp. recently I found out that juniors in my team are being paid atleast 10% more than me. This thing has been bugging me so much that I setup a meeting with my manager but here’s the thing- I have no idea how to talk about this to my manager. I obviously think it’s unfair given how much more work I am doing. 
Can experienced people here please guide me on how to approach this meeting?

Thanks!

Junior coworker getting paid more than me.

Just break the ice. Start by, “ Hi…. Sorry for the unplanned meeting but I want to talk about my compensation.”

Knew this as concept but didn't know the term. Learnt it last week on one of my posts here

Have you faced this in any of your previous companies?

TIL: Dry Promotions. Your story of being promoted without any pay raise?

Hello, I have 15+ years of experience in marketing and branding working in one of the top 10 fastest growing company 

Issue - co. has given 4% hike with 10% variable against my eligible limit. Irony is I am top performer in my team my increment letter states have over achieved my krs and kpis 

On top of it, co. has cheated me on paying my notice pay (bought out by them) 

And today am at net net loss on joining here feeling burn out and not sure what should I do

#need guidance

Associate Manager

I am in a peculiar situation and feel that I have lost all the trust my immediate leader had on me. 

bi weekly 1x1s - usually hell of a 30 mins, cross questions, interogation based on what my manager hears about me from my peers, validating my inner strengths, etc. one conversation in a month involves some casual talk consecutive 1x1 will be hellish and it is happening in cycles for a few months

My business acummen - for whatever reason my leader does not care about my business results or the way how I am leading an engineering team. Instead he focuses on petty people dynamics and is pushing me to fix people issues which cannot be fixed

Loosing motivation - I don’t fancy anymore to pursue awesome ideas and business related improvements as my leader is too demotivating

Comfor level - Managers in big tech companies just want the name to appear 

Who cares for customers - No one.

Employee survey on leadership and company - My leadership team in Bangalore and onshore senior leadership is only driven by the fact that we do everything so that yearly employee feedback survey shows our department positively and is never ready to take any risks or bold decisions for the rightful growth of busines.

Weird growth expectations - Everyone in my department thinks they deserve to get promotion and opportunities once they reach a certain years of experience. No one cares about performance. Leadership encourages this.

Competition - There is no such thing for us, as my leader is mainly focused on drawing the monthly pay check and do all king of unwanted projects and lose sight on project/opportunities that provides actual career growth for my direct reports. Our skills are being outdated and it is becoming very hard to find a job based on our work profile.

And so many more .. will make a new post.

Only in big companies!

Product Marketing Manager

I am a backend engineer, working in a tech powered fashion company. 

Total experience: 3.5 yrs
Current CTC : 24 lac fixed, 12 lacs ESOP in 4 years

I joined as a software engineer, this April I will complete 2 years in current company, but Manager saying promotion might not be possible due to current situation and less promo slots available. 

I have been quite a good performer last 2 years , building a crucial project from scratch and handling everything alone due to short staffing. There is sole dependency on me for that project and company has ambitious golas with that project this year. Recently got SPOT award from skip manager as well.

Only talked to manager last week , although we had made a promotion action plan few months back for my promotion this cycle and I meticulously followed every points in that plan , manager doesn't seem to be fighting much for my promotion, although he always says in my face that I am his star performer.


I am really upset with this. What should I do ?? 

Talk to skip manager? Consider switching company ? 

Please suggest me. Thanks. 

P.S : work culture and wlb is good here. Also as I have the complete ownership of the project, I learn as well.

Getting promoted w/o a salary hike

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