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What the hell is wrong with companies these days? They are trying to take advantage of laid off people!!

I had 2  offers from renowned companies, both of them quoted me numbers and I agreed with. And now, the HR calls me and says since you don’t have a counter offer we can’t offer you that much we promised you earlier.

Well, f*** you. I have competing offers but just got them confirmed over calls. As soon as I get them, I’m gonna kick your offer and never coming back doesn’t matter how much you pay.

And for sure, I am gonna keep you hanging till the very last moment of joining date and then just write a apology mail (which I wouldn’t even mean) saying that sorry I can’t join tomorrow. You get what you deserve.

I deserve better compensation, better people and not just the ones who goes back on their words.

F*** you again!!

F*** you Corporates

Software Developer

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Corporate Strategist

Hey guys
Got Piped and laid off by my toxic manager giving bullshit reason. The manager was giving random excuses when i asked in details. Anyways toxic people will do toxic things only. On the top of that phonepe was giving PIP to reduce experienced people and was hiring junior engineers to reduce costs.

Finally got a job after few months of efforts. Not that great but I am feeling great to get out of that toxicity. I am feeling better since I left phonepe. When I call my friends back at phonepe, I see them casually mentioning there is too much work I will do on weekend, will sit at night. That's how overworking in normalized. I was also doing the same before and didn't think twice how much I am working.

I Will keep on preparing and would not leave my future in hands of my future or any manager from now on.

Got Laid off. Got a job. Fu** off Phonepe

Though it’s great you got rid-off toxic manager, I would suggest you to reflect back if there were any short comings on your side. If not, it can become a chapter for you to identify toxicity early. If yes, learn from mistake and never to repeat it again. Sometimes, we miss the opportunity to learn from experiences.

Product Manager

I recently started a new job. I would like to share some of the experiences I have had with my manager. I am wondering if these are red flags or if I am maybe being paranoid or thinking too much.

It was quite difficult for me to get into this company and this job. The company is quite great and I was quite excited but some of the experiences I have had with my immediate manager have made me a bit apprehensive.
I would like to share them and hear opinions about it.

Here are some things which have happened which I have not liked so far - 

1. I speak to a Senior Engineer one day and next day my manager asks me if anyone asked me to speak to him. 
2. I shared an insight about a new tool which we can use on a deployment pipeline on the overall pod (under my skip manager). My manager immediately called me and started asking my status update and replied 'Discussing 1-1' in the group to prevent anyone getting visibility of the idea. 
3. My manager pings me whenever I go offline and recently he asked me in a passive aggressive way, 'Please monitor your Teams status. It was away for most of today.' I now feel kind of paranoid to never get up as I feel my Teams status is being monitored.

Is my manager too much of a micromanaging red flag ? I started a new job and my manager monitors my Teams online status.

Yes this is straight up micromanagement and insecurity. 
  
 Just stand up to him man. The more of such things you allow him to do, the more courage he will get and more he will fuck your life.  
  
 Just stand your ground for a few times and he'll understand that you are not the guy he can do this to.

What is the most toxic thing YOU have done to someone?

C'mon we can benefit being anon 🫣🤭

Realization: We are all different shades of red flags 🚩

I'll go first: "I want you to focus on doing good work and not on how much money you're making." Achchha aur mera rent kaun dega?

What's the dumbest thing your boss has said?

"2% is a good increment, considering the current environment"

Senior Software Engineer

Copywriter

BC! Office me temper control krke working in calm is not an easy thing

Growth Manager

I am serving my notice and my SM was forcing me to deliver on an unrealistic timeline. I highlighted that it can't be achieved to which they started scolding, raising voice and not listening to me. To which I said I can support only the capacity of my current role and can't manage the entire project. Later they told me that being on notice doesn't mean you work at lower levels. To which I said I am not happy with the work and treatment here and hence I am leaving. I in the end I said that I can support the team as needed during my working hours and if the quality of my output is not satisfactory I don't mind stepping aside. To which they got more angry and asked me to finish things again as per the timelines.

How can this affect me?

Altercation with my Senior Manager

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Reporting time in office My team has Daily Scrums at 9:45am. And if you don’t reach the meeting room by 9:47, it gets marked on a leaderboard. If you cross more than 3 times in a month,pay fine 100rs for 4th, 200 for 5th…

I can’t be be the only one, but I am surrounded by multiple people that just do not believe in async communication. They first send a “hi”, wait for me to acknowledge and then only proceed to tell me what they want. Even if it is something ridiculous like “What is the URL to access this portal?”. 

I generally am very quick with messages and from the last few months, this “hi” business is ticking me off. I decided to do some social experiment and delayed my responses to hi. 

If someone just sends me a “hi”, I schedule a “hi” to 3 hours from then. Result? People would rather sit on blockers than tell me what they want. 

I then tried a decreasing backoff. If you texted me a “hi” once, I’d respond in 3 hours. Repeat it a second time, I’d respond in 4 hours. 5 hours the third time, 6 hours the fourth and so on. 

Results? People would still rather I acknowledge their “hi” than tell me what they want.  

Some anecdotes of how “efficient” communication is:

1. A guy wanted access to a portal that I managed. He pinged me a “hi” every morning for 7 straight days before actually asking me what he wants. 
2. Another person wanted to understand git commands that can be used to solve merge conflicts. But not before pinging “hi” for 4 days, then just pulling me into a call with their manager and their manager pinging me a “hi” when I declined the call. 
3. Another person wanted an update on a ticket I closed 2 years ago. All he wanted was a change request number, which he could find using control + F on the Jira portal. He chose to send “hi”s to multiple team mates of mine when I didn’t respond. 

Ultimately, I started telling people to not just ping and disappear and that they can reach out to me. But I guess old habits die hard and I still receive multiple “hi”s. 

Merko unkin”hi” lag gayi. 

Also, before you scream at me for ranting about such a piddi problem. https://nohello.net/en/ is the thing.

Folks that ping “hi” and disappear

It can be either a strange workplace policy, an altercation with a manager or absolutely anything else.

What's the most toxic incident you've come across at your workplace?

There are always some people who'd sit to work on holidays and send random work related text on all official groups 🙄 
Just why?

Why do people send work related messages on holiday?

Previously I worked in Persistent Systems for 2 years. Recently my hr called me to share the screen and resign. They have given me 7 days time to submit laptop and all the assets, leave the company. I just want to understand can't we do anything if they asked to do force resign. Because I have been in this company for 2 years, past 6 months they started doing this for atleast 40 employees per month only from my branch Hyderabad . Now it has become per week because they don't have projects and lot of projects are going to end in few months and already few projects moved out because when I spoked with senior in the company they are saying projects signed for 5 year's contract has now not interested to move. I asked  why because of internal company politics, favouritism, fake and backdoor employees, over commitment due to these projects are not delivered in given deadline. How employees Will look for another oppurtunity in 7 days, also in my case when said to my recruiter that I am laid off they didn't schedule interview call then I changed my plan started saying them that I am having offer of A from x company going to join in next 15 days, then they shared scheduling interview. 
Won't there be any legal action we can take on employer as an employee in this cases.

Asked to do Resign

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I can't join any of these 11 companies anymore:

PhonePe 
GooglePay 
RazorPay 
PineLabs 
Cashfree Payments 
AmazonPay 
WhatsApp Pay 
Zerodha 
Groww 
Park+ 
NPCI

What should I do next? I think my career has reached a dead end.

PayTM and it's anti-compete is making me suffer🚨

Non compete is not enforceable in India. You should talk to a lawyer friend and understand specifics of your contract. The article below is an interesting read 
  
 https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/enforceability-non-compete-clause-under-employment-contracts-ali?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&utm_campaign=share_via

Business Analyst

Hey Viners, would like to know your prespective on the situation that if you face a bunch of incompetent colleagues who dont take their work seriously and the manager constantly asks you to maintain quality because of your seniority and you end up cleaning their work, how do you handle it ?

Few Incompetent colleagues

Create a toxic work environment for them that they leave themselves ☺️

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Hello Grapeviners,

What is with Indian recruiters wanting to know your CTC as the very first step of hiring? And when asked to share the ctc range in which the role falls, they refuse to share.  So basically they just want to lowball candidates based on their current CTC and parity is a joke?
Now If a recruiter denies sharing the range for the role and insists on knowing my CTC, I run!  What are your thoughts?

Recruiters want to know your CTC

As a recruiter, i have candidates asking me the payscale and i usually share them the compensation bands we have ...although in most cases we are told strictly not to tell the applicants ...however for me , i think it kinda makes my job much easier as they don't false expectations with the role or the salary ...neither i make them waste their time interviewing us ...saves a lot on both sides  
 My managers do expect me to have certain extra good profiles just to maintain our pipeline and show a good funnel of quality folks..but it does not work my way ...

I see a lot of girls today have this condition of not staying with in-laws after marriage. I want to know the opinion of both genders on this. As I myself don’t understand what difference it makes. 🫠

Marriage Stuff

Storytime: I work at Gojek. This year on 10th March 2023, I was supposed to be laid off in their second minerva round. But got saved due to office politics. Ever since I found out, like a sane person, I've been on the lookout - but like an insane person, for whatever reason, not aggressively. Finding out that you got saved because of petty office politics, and how pointless everything is- changed the way I look at Jobs/companies. While I did wanna move, I wasn't desperate. All of them are snakes.

Anyway, Since then, I've interviewed only for 3 companies. All 3 of them didn't work out.

First company - After the intro call , I was told that this wasn't a good fit . No explanations given. I was quite sad on that one. First kick back from the world after learning I was to be fired. Self doubt was heavy at this point. 

Second company - cleared everything but they weren't making a good offer. Took 1.5 months to meet at an agreeable salary. I still wasn't happy and parted ways,sad that it didn't work out. 

During our negotiations, the Indian government changed some policies that hit their industry hard. This company is now just trying to minimize the impact of the new policies, currently. They were not able to offer market industry salary then and I'm sure wouldn't be able to do so now. Layoff rumours in the air. I wonder what would have happened had I given in and accepted their mediocre offer or they had given in and given me something they couldn't sustain. 

Third: I interviewed at MPL. I was impressed by the HR, the interview panel- great product minds to work with and grow. The salary discussed in the intro call seemed great. I cleared 3 rounds. Went and met them. However I didn't clear, post that. HR ghosted me abruptly. I kept following up. After a week they responded. Feedback wasn't constructive or detailed . It was borderline harsh. I was super sad. I thought MPL would be it. 

Woke up to the news of MPL layoffs today. Indian government  changed GST 🤣

Are these signs from God or the government? Starting to believe there's some higher power in the universe

What happens, happens for the best. People don’t seem to get it initially, however, retrospectively it all makes sense somehow.

What is your views on that Stupidity act, What you do if someone always pulled you without any communication

Please share your stories

Direct pull in meeting without any Invite and Messages

UX/UI Designer

I am working as SDE 1 in a good Indian startup. It's getting toxic day by day. Late night workings like 3AM and working on weekends is normalised like anything. Since I am new to IT ( no sort of politics never) and have almost 2.5 Years of experience, I am facing issues in getting credits. Last appraisal cycle in January, I was nominated for promotion but wasn't given to me, reason: you have not worked with architect and he was making decisions. In that case, architect should have been distributed tasks to us. 

one SDE3 is leading one of the projects ( not a big one ) and manager/architect is not much interested and never join any standup or retro, I have contributed immensely to that. Now since it is completely driven by sde 3 , he takes updates from us and show his work infront of seniors and director + announces like his work and seldom we get thank you in threads. Like if you did one function or wrote complete flow, for both thank you. Because of all these reasons, my work is not getting recognised. There is no one in team to help in this. 

Whenever a manager or Architect show cases some features or release, it's pretty evident that his team has done it but when a sde 3 does it, it is not the same. It conveys the message all or 90% work is done by him. 

I would like to take some suggestions from my seniors and fellow mates here. 

Hierarchy - sde 1-2-3-4-EM
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