Yes please. Baaki aur koi comment mat karo. Till Plaintusk shows his real daant.

Brand Marketing Manager

Application Analyst

Product Marketing Manager

This is not just true for startups folks. I hv seen this in every indian firm I had to work with

Software Engineer

Why do leaders in startups in India casually use abusive language in meetings? Is it okay to be disrespectful and then use an excuse like “we are cool young people building a company and we don’t f...

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Why do leaders in startups in India casually use abusive language in meetings? Is it okay to be disrespectful and then use an excuse like “we are cool young people building a company and we don’t follow corporate bullshit”? I was in a meeting today and a leader casually addressed another colleague as b*nch*d.

Leaders being disrespectful in startups

Senior Product Manager

Leaders being disrespectful in startups- Grapevine

I go through multiple posts every day. Every one is cursing their company. The bosses are bad. Managers suck. Company is fraud. Is it always the company, managers , bosses at fault. How can we create better work environment in Indian Startup’s.?

Cursing the Indian Startups

We all have heard about the toxic culture of Edtech. Unacademy is now in the top spot when it comes to companies with toxic culture. Any company cannot be more cruel than this:

1. Abusive language by leaders - COO, CBOs, SVP, VP and other leaders treat employees as slaves. They themselves have made huge lossess and are burning investors money but when any employee voice out their opinion/asks for leaves, the leaders abuse employees badly even in front of other stakeholders.

2. Forceful long working hours -
Even if you complete your work in 8-9 hours, you are forced to sit for 11-12 hours just to show the founders.
People hardly work after certain hours but they just have to sit and waste their time. This is tiring and there is no work life balance. No time to spend with family. I hardly get chance to spen time with child. 

3. Late night reviews -
So the company has started this new way of conducting monthly reviews late in the night. People are asked to sit till 2-3 AM for reviews. And this review is nothing but a setup where COO abuses the employees.

4. Forced paycuts -
We have seen a forced paycut for the leaders (VP, SVP, Directors etc). 'No appraisal' was still somehow digestable but how can a company justify the degrowth in the earnings of their employees. Company has money to sponsor TVF web series (Sandeep Bhaiya), invite Standup comedians (Biswa and Prashasti), distribute pizzas to all the employees but when someone voices out for paycuts, they don't have money. 

5. No Flexibility In Working
The company witnessed its highest growth and revenue when 100% of the employees were working from home but now the founders think that people do not work from home so they have called everyone to work from office for 6 days a week. If someone asks for a work from home, the leaders denies or ask to apply leave to work from home.
Be it rains, election, etc - we are asked to work from office. Even during the day of election in Karnataka we were called in the office.

Unacademy is synonymous to Toxicity

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Recently McKinsey employee committed suicide. Now, CAM partner berating three bright associates for doing a job right because the partners looked like idiots.

Fuck your seniority. GenZ believes in meritocracy.

Leaks: Shocking email sent by Partner berating Associates for doing right job.

email sounds right to me, looks like a senior calling out mediocrity 
  
 maybe talking to them in person and in a professional way would have been better, but still LGTM

Senior Software Engineer

Robotics Engineer

How common and acceptable is it to use abusive words in your start-up when expressing anger?

Product Manager

Recently while working for an Indian startup I had a terrible experience, not because the entire team was bad but just the one person, the team lead treated me like shit.
Never left an opportunity to humiliate me publically, no appreciation, no feedback, no proactive help. Just pure toxicity. Is being a good person too much to ask from seniors? 
Fortunately for me, I never derived my self worth from him else I would've killed myself by now.

I am now planning to switch companies, and I want to know how to find and gauge good people beforehand? What can I do to make sure or atleast increase the probability of me being with good people? Is this even possible?

Anyone can share any anecdotes on their startup stints and their relationships with people there is also welcome.

How to gauge good people to work for in Indian startups?

It has become very prominent in India now

What are some startups in India where "bootlicking (chaatna)" work culture and only way to do well in the company

Project Manager

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I am a 6 yrs experienced Software developer and part of a mid-stage startup. This is my third job; I have been working here for 3 years. I was involved here as one of the core engineers at the start in developing the overall platform, After that, my growth as an engineer stagnated for 2 years . 

Constant importance and priority are given to business requirements and hacky work getting pushed to production in the name of fast iterations and business impact every week. 

My engineering manager lacks proper engineering skills and doesn't respect engineers even after their impact on the company and constantly keeps saying the engineering team doesn't contribute to the revenue of the company despite us pushing work that improves business positively. 

Last year around November, around 80% of the engineering team was subtly suggested to start looking out for work (basically a soft layoff) because management was too scared of a social media backlash

Due to all this,2 years' worth of technical debt has accumulated on the overall codebase and apart from giving justification for every code improvement that we try to make there, we still have to work on business/product requirements. 

My growth as an engineer has stopped and I am worried about missing out on the latest developments in the tech industry, especially with AI in the picture, and want to make my skillset somewhat AI-proof. I have come back to hands-on coding this year , so that's a positive start. I am considering taking a 3-4 month break after resigning from my company to study, develop side projects, develop a portfolio etc

Has anyone else been in this boat ? How did you come out strong?

Side Effects of working at startups

Rant alert : 

Have some really sensible friends (thought so) and we banter about startup business follies. Now I don’t want to be friends with them. 

What got to me recently was few of them proudly boycotting people from Byjus, Unacqdemy, upgrad or any of the startup’s who were in news for irregularities/bad culture. 

I thought this was quite insensitive and cruel. I mean - seriously really - let alone  trying to make any changes or raise voices, how many of the employees would  have had any knowledge of the unethical practices. They can’t even leave the company because of arsehole holier-than-though leaders will reject the resumes as quick hops. 

Not at all saying there should be a sympathetic view to them, but a fair chance to everyone is warranted. Why treat the employees as some pariah! Such rotten people and it’s ridiculous they talk about empathy the next min. 

Everyday we are seeing a new level of downfall of startup’s and way of businesses. Why not change the pseudo intellectual, egomaniacal, elitist clannish attitude that founders/leaders  used to exhibit.

Boycott the company founders and not the employees

Investor

Who makes these founders leaders? Such bad choice of words

After going through so many posts on grapevine..I feel like all the startups in India are toxic only 😕😕

Really want to know which are the startups worthy of joining? Preferably in product roles

Non toxic startups in India?

Ghosting by HR is becoming increasingly common. This is not only for junior or middle level roles but also senior level. Talk to a prospective candidate and go to sleep. One more round and then go missing again. Repeat the process till the person starts to question the culture. And ya, when you wake up, expect the candidate to leave everything and respond..else, you will go ahead and open the position. 

Anyone else facing this in startups?

Ghosting by HR

Growth Manager

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Udaan fired more than 150 employees after raising $340 million dollar

1. Fancy talks from founders such as ownership, independence, building for next generation, speed etc
2. Learn new tech
3. Glofiying working at odd hours
4. Don't talk about stress and anxiety 

Start ups are not for weak heart and normal humans who have life after work. It's only for people who will give up their life to build somone else dream. Prove me wrong.

An ex ola person cried infront of me for the workplace stress and unrealistic push

Startup are brutal

Lawyer

It’s considered immature to speak negatively of your past employers. But i am going to share some anyway. 

Used to work at Oyo with Ritesh - directly. Havent seen a more deluded personality - high headed, pretentious and above all, bipolar. He used to speak so rudely at times that it makes you question if the money is worth it. I have often wanted to tell some people - if he invested all the softbank funding into Nifty, LPs would have had a decent return than the ever failing IPO attempts. 

I am so glad the valuation reality kicked in and humbled these founders down. At the end of the day though they amassed a lot of wealth. But at what cost. 

Eager to hear on Byju BKLora.

Rant against OYO

Operations Manager

What's the craziest reason someone got fired?

Here's mine at my previous job. A collegue of mine was fired for smoking weed in the bathroom. He got back to his laptop and he was high as fuck, I am pretty sure he didn't even understand why he was getting fired.

Software Developer

I am starting up soon. I care about working on meaningful problems, with good people and building the right culture. 

Have been hearing from a lot of folks about culture problems in startups. Seems more of a norm rather than an exception. 

Curious to know why do startup culture degrade? What pitfalls should I avoid to create a healthy culture?

Why do startup culture go bad?

Hello all! 
I am working as HR Head in a growth stage startup in Bangalore. So many people here talk about compensation, culture, growth etc. Happy to answer questions related to HR/Culture/Startups.

People & Culture Manager

The startup culture is so toxic these days, they literally treat people like slaves now. Hiring krte time team team krenge lekin fir attitude aisa ki jaise mazdoor ho jo dihadi lene aagye ho roz, idk if its the case everywhere but i experienced it in 2 startups in NCR.

Toxic startup culture

I am so frustrated by observing how some Indian startup founders have been mistreating employees. This is happening literally in all the startups and corporates.

Many of us invest their precious time and money obtaining degrees, only to become corporate employees.

India won the WC on Saturday night, and since then, I have seen numerous rant posts from people complaining that they missed this moment because they were overworked.

The rate of employee exploitation is alarmingly high, as founders often believe they have alot of options and are driven by their greed for money.

Look at the plight of startups, the top management says they do not have money so they lay off the whole departments without any prior notice. Yet they spend so lavishly on showing investors or on their socials how cool they all are.

We are bloody engineers, not their family bound slaves.
Why do we suffer ? 

I believe it is high time that we establish a union for employees working in the IT industry.
This exploitative culture needs to come to an end.

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